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OAKLAND, Calif. - As trying as the first half of Derek Carrs first NFL season has been with no wins, rookie mistakes and the challenge of adjusting to the pro game, he can take some comfort when he looks across the field Sunday.Because as rough as these first eight games have been for Carr, Peyton Manning had it almost as bad when he made his debut 16 years ago.Instead of being discouraged by a 3-13 season and 28 interceptions, Manning learned from it and became the Super Bowl winning and record-setting quarterback that he is today.Experience was my best teacher, Manning said. Theres no question that I learned a lot of things that I would not have learned if I wasnt in there playing. Learn from the good things and of course youve got to learn from the mistakes as well. But, I do think that being in there facing the live action is really the only way to learn how to play quarterback in this league.Carr will get another chance at it on Sunday when he looks for his first win when the Raiders (0-8) host Manning and the Denver Broncos (6-2).Carrs first eight games have slightly better than the start to Mannings career despite the lack of team success. He completed a higher rate of passes (60.7 per cent to 55.1), threw the same number of TD passes (11), has less than half of Mannings interceptions (7 vs. 16) and has a superior passer rating (79.8 to 64.5).The edge for Manning is that he won one of his first eight starts instead of going winless. But Carr feels he has made progress and its only time until the wins come.A lot of people learn in different ways, but for me I need to be out there and I need to see it, Carr said. For me, its been great. Im looking forward to getting some wins going on, going into the last half of the season.Carr, obviously, has a long way to go to reach Mannings level. Manning has won a record five MVP awards, played in three Super Bowls, won one title, and has a record 515 TD passes.Im glad that I dont play defence, because I dont think Id help us much if I did, Carr said. But, its cool. Its one of those things that early in the week, youre like, Wow, thats pretty cool. But at this point, Im trying to beat him.Here are some other things to watch when the Raiders host the Broncos:CLASS OF 98: This game features two of the three remaining players from the 1998 draft in Manning and Raiders safety Charles Woodson. Manning was taken first overall by Indianapolis that year, while Woodson went fourth to Oakland after beating out Manning for the Heisman Trophy. Sixteen years later, the two are still near the top of their games.He looks the same as when he got out of college, Manning said.LEERY OF LETDOWN: One week after losing a showdown at New England, the Broncos could be forgiven if they let their guard down a bit against the winless Raiders.I dont look at the record, I look at the film, Manning said. I look at how were playing. Your job each week is to study the opponent and also be sure youre studying yourselves and seeing what you need to be doing to improve.MACK ATTACK: When the Raiders drafted Khalil Mack fifth overall in May, then-coach Dennis Allen compared him to Denver linebacker Von Miller. Mack has mostly lived up to the expectations, playing dominant run defence and providing consistent pressure on the quarterback. The one thing lacking is sacks. Mack is still looking for his first, while Miller had 6 1/2 after eight games.I know a lot has been made that he hasnt had a sack, but I think he might lead the league in holding penalties versus him, Denver coach John Fox said. Hes tremendous and a guy that were very aware of.SACK EXCHANGE: Miller and DeMarcus Ware form one of the most feared pass-rushing duos in the NFL. Miller is tied for second in the NFL with nine sacks and Ware is just one behind with eight. They are the eighth set of teammates to each have at least eight sacks in the first eight games and will present quite a challenge to Carr and his offensive line.GROUNDED: In a season of lows, the Raiders running game is setting some marks for futility. Oaklands 18.9 rush attempts per game are the lowest on record going back to 1932 and the teams average of 65.5 yards rushing per game is the lowest in the NFL since Detroit averaged 42.5 yards in 1946. 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As youre thrown back into action, the biggest thing is that the instincts get honed, the reflexes are honed.Willis learned he needed surgery on his toe and will miss the rest of the season. Bowman has yet to play because of a knee injury and must practice by Tuesday to be eligible this year.Harbaugh deflected questions regarding the results of Bowmans MRI and what it may mean for his future.Skuta missed the first football game of his career and called it the most frustraating thing in his life.ddddddddddddI dont know what to do pacing the sideline, he said. Its still day to day, but its getting better. Its been 12 days and I was told the timetable for something like this was two or three weeks.Skuta said he was harder on his ankle than if he participated in the full practice. He went through hard cutting drills and is anxious to see how it reacts Saturday.He considers playing table tennis part of the healing process.Its good rehab because Im taking little hops to get going like I would just before a play, Skuta said.Rookie linebacker Chris Borland, who has been a pleasant surprise filling in for Willis, was limited for Wednesdays practice because of a shoulder problem. He was careful in the full practice the next two days.A very talented player. Means a lot to him. Gives great effort, Harbaugh said. Very smart and executes all his assignments, as he did in college.NOTES: S Jimmie Ward (foot) and DT Ian Williams (fibula) are out while Skuta, CB Tramaine Brock (hamstring) and WR Bruce Ellington (ankle) are questionable. . In addition to Borland, RB Frank Gore (hip), DE Ray McDonald (knee), S Eric Reid (ankle) and DE Justin Smith (non-injury related) are all listed as probable. 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